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["00:00:00,000","0","00:00:06,397","160","We are here in Pijnacker, it's a very small town in Holland."],
["00:00:06,453","161","00:00:13,035","326","When we started this project, there were two things<br />which were analysed by us"],
["00:00:13,036","326","00:00:16,236","406","it is of course where it was positioned,"],
["00:00:16,237","406","00:00:18,337","458","and the position is quite important"],
["00:00:18,338","458","00:00:23,838","596","because it is built, this tunnel in between two neighbourhoods."],
["00:00:23,839","596","00:00:26,635","666","One which is already almost finished"],
["00:00:26,636","666","00:00:28,896","722","and one which will be finnished."],
["00:00:28,897","722","00:00:31,172","779","So this tunnel is not functioning yet,"],
["00:00:31,173","779","00:00:33,618","840","but it will be in a few years"],
["00:00:33,619","840","00:00:37,062","927","and it is important to build it already"],
["00:00:37,063","927","00:00:42,482","1062","because the trucks are driving through the tunnel,"],
["00:00:42,483","1062","00:00:45,054","1126","of course, to prepare the land there."],
["00:00:45,055","1126","00:00:49,715","1243","When we started to analyse our environment,"],
["00:00:49,716","1243","00:00:55,428","1386","the context, we thought it was already becoming a typical VINEX location."],
["00:00:55,429","1386","00:00:59,026","1476","It is an urban strategy to make a lot of houses"],
["00:00:59,027","1476","00:01:02,956","1574","very compact on little piece of land."],
["00:01:02,957","1574","00:01:07,985","1700","It is in a way a dreamless space where they live."],
["00:01:07,986","1700","00:01:10,606","1765","You are walking in a neighbourhood and there is nobody there,"],
["00:01:10,607","1765","00:01:13,835","1846","it is like a mental desert you can say."],
["00:01:13,836","1846","00:01:20,855","2021","So when you imagine yourself making a project<br />in between two of those urban landscapes,"],
["00:01:20,856","2021","00:01:25,157","2129","then I thought we should make something which is like a dream,"],
["00:01:25,158","2129","00:01:29,443","2236","which resource the dreamless scapes there."],
["00:01:29,444","2236","00:01:31,660","2292","And that was one part"],
["00:01:31,661","2292","00:01:34,021","2351","and the other part is where we are standing now."],
["00:01:34,022","2351","00:01:39,102","2478","There used to be little farm on a very irregular space."],
["00:01:39,103","2478","00:01:44,156","2604","It was like an island, in a quite orthogonal space, you know."],
["00:01:44,157","2604","00:01:47,079","2677","We developed here everything quite othogonal"],
["00:01:47,080","2677","00:01:52,428","2811","and that was this really irregular space with a farm house on it."],
["00:01:52,429","2811","00:01:59,338","2983","But it must be destroyed because this project was meant to be built there."],
["00:01:59,339","2983","00:02:04,246","3106","I thought the idea of making something with dream"],
["00:02:04,247","3106","00:02:08,328","3208","and to reintroduce something which was very irregular"],
["00:02:08,329","3208","00:02:12,342","3309","was the starting point of producing this project."],
["00:02:12,343","3309","00:02:18,036","3451","But the difficult thing is how can you produce something"],
["00:02:18,037","3451","00:02:22,359","3559","which has a feeling of a dream or something which is not human."],
["00:02:22,360","3559","00:02:29,022","3726","You cannot produce it by sketching on a paper and producing it like that."],
["00:02:29,023","3726","00:02:35,217","3880","So what we did was we created a software tool"],
["00:02:35,218","3880","00:02:42,918","4073","and the software tool was put in the preliminary design"],
["00:02:42,919","4073","00:02:45,737","4143","which the engineers gave us."],
["00:02:45,738","4143","00:02:51,504","4288","The preliminary design consisted of just a straight tunnel"],
["00:02:51,505","4288","00:02:55,223","4381","and very rational, all well calculated."],
["00:02:55,224","4381","00:02:58,467","4462","And we projected the software in the tunnel"],
["00:02:58,468","4462","00:03:07,033","4676","and it carved out the concrete where it in a way,"],
["00:03:07,034","4676","00:03:13,790","4845","in this way actually all these spaces which are red now<br />were carved out by this software tool."],
["00:03:19,824","4996","00:03:25,820","5146","You can see, everything which is grey is generic,"],
["00:03:25,821","5146","00:03:27,874","5197","is what engineers gave us,"],
["00:03:27,875","5197","00:03:30,984","5275","and everything which is red is carved out by the software tool."],
["00:03:30,985","5275","00:03:36,459","5411","So we didn't design it with our personality or by hand,"],
["00:03:36,460","5412","00:03:39,587","5490","but we let the computer make this strange irregular shape"],
["00:03:39,588","5490","00:03:44,790","5620","and I think that's quite important to us an architect"],
["00:03:44,791","5620","00:03:50,721","5768","to create a kind of distance between you and the project."],
["00:03:50,722","5768","00:03:55,049","5876","That means that when you are trying to make something"],
["00:03:55,050","5876","00:03:58,436","5961","which has nothing to do with humans or human scale"],
["00:03:58,437","5961","00:04:00,786","6020","and then you should find strategies"],
["00:04:00,787","6020","00:04:06,384","6160","which can produce this kind of strange shapes."],
["00:04:06,385","6160","00:04:11,068","6277","What we did was not only that we produced a software tool"],
["00:04:11,069","6277","00:04:12,491","6312","which created the space"],
["00:04:12,492","6312","00:04:17,049","6426","but also each time we made models, physical models."],
["00:04:17,050","6426","00:04:23,588","6590","What the result was<br />what this software did with the generic engineer shape."],
["00:04:23,589","6590","00:04:26,449","6661","Because we tried of course,"],
["00:04:26,450","6661","00:04:32,252","6806","we wanted to look what the effect is when we produced this shape"],
["00:04:32,253","6806","00:04:40,114","7003","and every time we saw that what that software tool did,<br />was that it produced a form which was too smooth,"],
["00:04:40,115","7003","00:04:47,038","7176","a little bit too nice, you know, not hallucinating enough."],
["00:04:50,485","7262","00:04:53,474","7337","And therefore we made the models,"],
["00:04:53,475","7337","00:04:56,633","7416","because when you make models you can make a lot of mistakes"],
["00:04:56,634","7416","00:04:59,403","7485","and that's nice about making physical models."],
["00:04:59,404","7485","00:05:01,568","7539","Each time we made a physical model,"],
["00:05:01,569","7539","00:05:10,264","7757","put it back into the computer again and made physical model<br />and it was like a reiterating process"],
["00:05:10,299","7757","00:05:14,325","7858","and it's nice because then you see a lot of kind of strange mistakes,"],
["00:05:14,326","7858","00:05:19,255","7981","e.g. this shape was produced in the model,"],
["00:05:19,256","7981","00:05:22,603","8065","it was not produced by the software"],
["00:05:25,041","8126","00:05:30,847","8271","and it is like a strange muscle or something like that."],
["00:05:32,896","8322","00:05:34,363","8359","You can say it's a mistake"],
["00:05:34,364","8359","00:05:42,911","8573","but you can also say this is what we really are after -<br />- strange coincidences,"],
["00:05:42,912","8573","00:05:44,849","8621","which you cannot see beforehand"],
["00:05:44,850","8621","00:05:47,354","8684","or which you cannot design really by hand"],
["00:05:47,355","8684","00:05:50,635","8766","or putting data into the computer."],
["00:05:50,636","8766","00:05:59,360","8984","These really irregular forms are produced not by us<br />but by the project itself, you can say."],
["00:05:59,361","8984","00:06:02,861","9072","And why is that important,"],
["00:06:02,862","9072","00:06:09,072","9227","I think it is important as it is about certain kind of ambiguity."],
["00:06:10,128","9253","00:06:14,976","9374","I mean what the engineers gave us was the really rational shape,"],
["00:06:14,977","9374","00:06:17,684","9442","you can build it but without architects."],
["00:06:17,685","9442","00:06:21,471","9537","That's not the problem."],
["00:06:21,472","9537","00:06:28,016","9700","But what we put in it is something which is not only extra"],
["00:06:28,017","9700","00:06:34,708","9868","but it has to do with another kind of other dimension which we put in."],
["00:06:34,709","9868","00:06:39,281","9982","And this dimension is not a human dimension."],
["00:06:39,282","9982","00:06:46,231","10156","I am always trying to speak about another dimension<br />beyond humanity"],
["00:06:46,232","10156","00:06:49,381","10235","which we introduced here in this shape."],
["00:06:51,441","10286","00:06:55,275","10382","A lot of times I talk about technical spaces"],
["00:06:55,276","10382","00:07:00,322","10508","and this is typical technical space, you can say."],
["00:07:00,323","10508","00:07:08,087","10702","Technical space is a space where people normally are not welcome"],
["00:07:08,088","10702","00:07:09,756","10744","or are just passing by."],
["00:07:09,757","10744","00:07:16,249","10906","You can say that garbage dumpsites are technical spaces,"],
["00:07:16,250","10906","00:07:24,581","11115","tunnels, railways, also industrial zones, or freeways<br />are technical spaces."],
["00:07:26,354","11159","00:07:30,910","11273","We have a lot of technical spaces not only here in Holland,"],
["00:07:30,911","11273","00:07:32,396","11310","but I think everywhere."],
["00:07:32,397","11310","00:07:37,105","11428","For me the essence of this is to give them a kind of soul"],
["00:07:37,106","11428","00:07:42,245","11556","so they are becoming something else"],
["00:07:42,246","11556","00:07:48,161","11704","and that's the point where they instead of they being<br />just simply technical space"],
["00:07:48,162","11704","00:07:50,006","11750","they change into a snake space."],
["00:07:50,007","11750","00:08:01,368","12034","And snake space is a space which is a space with the soul<br />not just generic kind of space."],
["00:08:01,369","12034","00:08:08,237","12206","And I like to see this as also a space which is inhabited<br />by kind of strange creature"],
["00:08:08,238","12206","00:08:15,145","12379","which left the red imprints on the concrete that it is more like a house of,"],
["00:08:15,146","12379","00:08:17,070","12427","I don't know what,"],
["00:08:17,071","12427","00:08:23,875","12597","maybe a kind of strange animal or a kind of strange creature."],
["00:08:23,893","12597","00:08:27,980","12700","I think it is not a human creature at least."],
["00:08:27,981","12700","00:08:30,340","12758","- Why snake?"],
["00:08:30,341","12759","00:08:31,664","12792","Oh, snake space"],
["00:08:32,805","12820","00:08:41,888","13047","Because a snake is capable to move in the most smallest, strangest space."],
["00:08:43,294","13082","00:08:45,419","13135","Of course, it's a metaphor,"],
["00:08:45,420","13136","00:08:53,350","13334","but I like the idea that you can move in the most strangest spaces."],
["00:08:55,026","13376","00:08:56,388","13410","Now we are in Hoofddorp"],
["00:08:56,389","13410","00:08:59,788","13495","and we can see here two projects,"],
["00:08:59,789","13495","00:09:02,409","13560","one which I call the Amazing Whale Jaw"],
["00:09:02,410","13560","00:09:07,660","13691","and the other one we call Flower Power."],
["00:09:07,661","13692","00:09:15,120","13878","And Flower Power is for high speed bus track - Kerntraject,<br />bus transport."],
["00:09:15,121","13878","00:09:17,524","13938","The other one, The Amazing Whale Jaw,"],
["00:09:17,525","13938","00:09:21,673","14042","you see in orange, is for the local buses."],
["00:09:21,674","14042","00:09:26,326","14158","You can see the buses can stop around an island"],
["00:09:26,327","14158","00:09:31,069","14277","and on this island we projected facility"],
["00:09:31,070","14277","00:09:37,108","14428","where people can wait and can stand dry and also out of the wind."],
["00:09:37,109","14428","00:09:40,033","14501","When we started this project,"],
["00:09:40,034","14501","00:09:44,038","14601","we thought we could construct the shape"],
["00:09:44,039","14601","00:09:47,609","14690","which we already defined in concrete."],
["00:09:47,610","14690","00:09:50,533","14763","But during the time"],
["00:09:50,534","14763","00:09:56,490","14912","our client told us that they only had half of the money<br />to build the project"],
["00:09:56,491","14912","00:10:00,008","15000","and they decided to change the design."],
["00:10:00,009","15000","00:10:07,712","15193","I thought well, that's a shame to make totally new design"],
["00:10:07,713","15193","00:10:12,726","15318","which should be more neutral or less dynamic"],
["00:10:12,727","15318","00:10:15,435","15386","and I talked with the contractor."],
["00:10:18,288","15457","00:10:23,127","15578","We decided to make the shape with another kind of technique"],
["00:10:23,128","15578","00:10:30,247","15756","which was less expensive than the concrete."],
["00:10:28,230","15706","00:10:35,411","15885","we would need a lot of hours to prepare the building site<br />to make the form"],
["00:10:35,412","15885","00:10:37,190","15930","and we thought:"],
["00:10:37,191","15930","00:10:40,217","16005","well, let's try the industrial method,"],
["00:10:41,752","16044","00:10:47,471","16187","why not make it out of foam and plaster it with reinforced polyester."],
["00:10:47,472","16187","00:10:54,368","16359","We called some people, who are more into industrial design"],
["00:10:54,369","16359","00:10:58,892","16472","and they helped us to find right subcontractors."],
["00:10:58,893","16472","00:11:02,209","16555","That was the only way to make this within the budget."],
["00:11:03,205","16580","00:11:07,650","16691","The shape is made out of big foam blocks,"],
["00:11:07,651","16691","00:11:17,545","16939","blocks of foam like 4 metre in size and 1 metre by 1 metre<br />and precut it, mills this form out of the foam."],
["00:11:17,546","16939","00:11:20,439","17011","It is the cheapest foam you have"],
["00:11:20,440","17011","00:11:23,644","17091","it is like only 15 euro a cube."],
["00:11:23,645","17091","00:11:29,223","17231","And after that we put it on top of each other"],
["00:11:29,224","17231","00:11:34,379","17359","like a big puzzle you can say 3-D puzzle"],
["00:11:34,380","17360","00:11:42,503","17563","and then after that we made the polyester on top of it,"],
["00:11:42,504","17563","00:11:48,497","17712","which was made by hand but also sprayed on it,"],
["00:11:48,498","17712","00:11:52,397","17810","so there were two ways: spraying and making by hand."],
["00:11:53,716","17843","00:11:59,672","17992","What I think is important when you deal with projects<br />concerning public transport"],
["00:11:59,673","17992","00:12:02,073","18052","is that you don't make a generic solution"],
["00:12:02,074","18052","00:12:07,646","18191","so not cover waiting place with glass and steel and something high-tech"],
["00:12:07,647","18191","00:12:11,075","18277","and that you give it some kind of strange identity"],
["00:12:11,076","18277","00:12:17,726","18443","and this is the reason also that we worked with very ambiguous form,"],
["00:12:17,727","18443","00:12:19,969","18499","form that you don't know what it is"],
["00:12:19,970","18499","00:12:22,589","18565","or you don't know what the meaning is"],
["00:12:22,590","18565","00:12:24,233","18606","it is not the fixed form,"],
["00:12:24,234","18606","00:12:27,621","18691","it's not the dynamic form"],
["00:12:27,622","18691","00:12:31,537","18788","but it's form that is still melting in your mind."],
["00:12:36,091","18902","00:12:40,040","19001","The building which you are seeing here used not to be orange."],
["00:12:40,041","19001","00:12:42,909","19073","It was made out of reinforced polyester"],
["00:12:42,910","19073","00:12:50,298","19257","but it was transparent so you could see more or less the foam underneath it"],
["00:12:50,299","19257","00:12:53,539","19338","and I liked that because it looks like a frozen object."],
["00:12:53,540","19338","00:13:00,671","19517","But some politicians thought that the hospital and the parking was too boring,"],
["00:13:00,672","19517","00:13:01,297","19532","too grey,"],
["00:13:01,298","19532","00:13:02,272","19557","too black,"],
["00:13:02,273","19557","00:13:08,156","19704","they asked me to paint this building over again"],
["00:13:08,157","19704","00:13:12,235","19806","and we decided to make it orange but with a golden glitter"],
["00:13:12,236","19806","00:13:16,734","19918","so you can see that it is really very lively"],
["00:13:16,735","19918","00:13:21,548","20039","and what I like about the colour is not an industrialized colour,"],
["00:13:21,549","20039","00:13:27,947","20199","it is not the raw colour and you can say it is gold"],
["00:13:27,948","20199","00:13:31,926","20298","but is also orange and it is something in between those both colours"],
["00:13:31,927","20298","00:13:34,522","20363","and also in the tunnel of Pijnacker"],
["00:13:34,523","20363","00:13:37,901","20448","you could see that the colour was not really red or really orange,"],
["00:13:37,902","20448","00:13:38,955","20474","something between,"],
["00:13:38,956","20474","00:13:42,353","20559","it is hovering in your mind like this shape also is."],
["00:13:44,073","20602","00:13:46,499","20662","Here we are in Amstelveen,"],
["00:13:46,500","20662","00:13:48,266","20707","this is another tunnel project,"],
["00:13:48,267","20707","00:13:52,533","20813","but completely different than the tunnel project in Pijnacker."],
["00:13:52,534","20813","00:13:55,980","20900","Pijnacker was very expressive very red."],
["00:13:55,981","20900","00:13:58,326","20958","This is purely black and white"],
["00:13:58,327","20958","00:14:01,939","21048","and inspired by the paintings of Vasarely,"],
["00:14:01,940","21048","00:14:05,671","21142","that's the famous op artist in the sixties"],
["00:14:05,672","21142","00:14:12,052","21301","and what he did, he painted the surface so that it looks like 3-D picture"],
["00:14:12,053","21301","00:14:18,345","21459","and this inspired us to also to try to make,"],
["00:14:18,346","21459","00:14:26,044","21651","to use the walls which are purely 2-D<br />and to covert them towards 3-D"],
["00:14:26,045","21651","00:14:30,697","21767","and the reason was that when I came here"],
["00:14:30,698","21767","00:14:36,295","21907","I realized that at that side there is a brand new neighbouhood<br />with a lot of children"],
["00:14:36,296","21907","00:14:37,612","21940","like him"],
["00:14:37,613","21940","00:14:40,195","22005","and on the other side there is a school,"],
["00:14:40,196","22005","00:14:44,127","22103","so children are using this tunnel a lot"],
["00:14:44,128","22103","00:14:52,059","22301","and I thought at home they have this very sofisticated<br />3-D computer games"],
["00:14:52,060","22302","00:14:57,118","22428","and they have to go to school where they still have to write on<br />2-D little booklets,"],
["00:14:57,119","22428","00:15:03,596","22590","where they have to learn to write and it is quite boring to do it<br />in this traditional way"],
["00:15:03,597","22590","00:15:08,776","22719","and so I thought let's consider this tunnel<br />as a kind of transformation space"],
["00:15:08,777","22719","00:15:15,060","22876","and to use the images of Vasarely or the inspiration of Vasarely"],
["00:15:15,061","22877","00:15:18,827","22971","and to put it on the wall like this is 2,5-D,"],
["00:15:18,828","22971","00:15:21,850","23046","at home they have 3-D and at school they have 2-D."],
["00:15:21,851","23046","00:15:31,600","23290","And you can see that we considered this kind of space<br />as an interior"],
["00:15:31,601","23290","00:15:38,724","23468","and not merely as a space for passage or driving."],
["00:15:39,181","23480","00:15:46,456","23661","I think together this one with the tunnel of Pijnaker<br />you can consider this as interior spaces."],
["00:15:47,909","23698","00:15:50,209","23755","We are sitting now in a restaurant"],
["00:15:50,210","23755","00:15:55,145","23879","and this restaurant is near the airport, which is there,"],
["00:15:55,146","23879","00:15:58,381","23960","it's Schiphol, the most important airport here in Holland."],
["00:15:58,382","23960","00:16:04,941","24124","That is not so unusual, you can say, to sit in a restaurant,"],
["00:16:04,942","24124","00:16:07,363","24184","but this restaurant is built on top of the freeway"],
["00:16:07,364","24184","00:16:11,867","24297","and it is the biggest freeway in Holland it's 2 x 5 lanes."],
["00:16:11,868","24297","00:16:16,557","24414","So I don't think we have bigger freeways like this."],
["00:16:16,558","24414","00:16:22,496","24562","And the combination of the built restaurant on top of the freeway"],
["00:16:22,497","24562","00:16:28,415","24710","creates in my vision a new experience"],
["00:16:28,416","24710","00:16:35,225","24881","and I think that is one of the most important things<br />which architecture should do"],
["00:16:35,226","24881","00:16:41,141","25029","is to create a new experience or at least to open the door<br />to another experience"],
["00:16:41,142","25029","00:16:47,607","25190","and not merely create a copy of an existing experience."],
["00:16:47,608","25190","00:16:54,349","25359","And to reach that kind of level of architecture, one that creates new experiences"],
["00:16:54,350","25359","00:17:01,482","25537","you have to do something different than<br />talking with the grammar of traditional architecture."],
["00:17:01,483","25537","00:17:12,246","25806","So you cannot think of architecture in terms of doors,<br />windows, roof, walls, columns or the regular stuff"],
["00:17:12,247","25806","00:17:13,386","25835","which you learn at school."],
["00:17:15,040","25876","00:17:18,251","25956","That is the language which we learned"],
["00:17:18,251","25956","00:17:23,087","26077","and you even have to use in a sometimes very functional way."],
["00:17:23,088","26077","00:17:26,334","26158","But to create another kind of architecture,"],
["00:17:26,335","26158","00:17:35,801","26395","we always start with what we call a code -<br />and a code is the heart of the project."],
["00:17:35,802","26395","00:17:40,923","26523","And it can be an image, it can be a sound, it can be a movement,<br />it can be a colour,"],
["00:17:40,924","26523","00:17:45,895","26647","it can be a kind of pattern,<br />but this is the heart of the project."],
["00:17:45,896","26647","00:17:50,737","26768","This code never has to do anything with architecture,"],
["00:17:50,738","26768","00:17:53,923","26848","nor with columns, doors, roofs, windows etc."],
["00:17:53,924","26848","00:18:00,211","27005","It has to do something which comes from outside of architecture,"],
["00:18:00,212","27005","00:18:08,116","27203","and this is I think the only way to reach another level<br />within architecture"],
["00:18:10,385","27260","00:18:14,435","27361","and then create an experience like this."],
["00:18:14,436","27361","00:18:18,103","27453","This code is important,"],
["00:18:18,104","27453","00:18:30,181","27755","because it is not the same as a story or theme,<br />which is very popular in architecture's concept to talk with concepts."],
["00:18:30,182","27755","00:18:36,523","27913","But I think concepts and stories and themes are too loud."],
["00:18:36,524","27913","00:18:46,044","28151","I think it's much more interesting to think that<br />the code is the heart of architecture, but it is silent."],
["00:18:46,045","28151","00:18:52,664","28317","You cannot talk about it nor can you really read it,<br />you cannot analyse it."],
["00:18:52,665","28317","00:18:58,860","28472","With each project you are trying to use this code<br />as a kind of starting point"],
["00:18:58,861","28472","00:19:17,245","28931","and to spread it all over the project not only as a kind of direction<br />but really use it within every detail."],
["00:19:18,915","28973","00:19:21,715","29043","I have a question for myself:"],
["00:19:21,716","29043","00:19:31,078","29277","Does this result, your strategy with these codes,<br />always into expressive architecture?"],
["00:19:33,150","29329","00:19:43,825","29596","- No, this strategy results into very several projects<br />and what i also like is that"],
["00:19:43,826","29596","00:19:49,259","29731","you cannot recognize a style in our work."],
["00:19:49,260","29732","00:19:53,470","29837","It's not like we do only expressive works,<br />like the tunnel in Pijnacker,"],
["00:19:53,471","29837","00:19:57,068","29927","of course it is very exuberant and also Hoofddorp it is very fluent,"],
["00:19:57,069","29927","00:20:02,731","30068","very expressive<br />but sometimes we have very silent projects"],
["00:20:02,732","30068","00:20:07,727","30193","which are very humble<br />and we are going to visit in Rotterdam a project,"],
["00:20:07,728","30193","00:20:14,412","30360","which is quite an old project, which is very introvert, very..."],
["00:20:14,413","30360","00:20:20,186","30505","all the forces I directed towards the inner of the project"],
["00:20:20,187","30505","00:20:23,670","30592","so it is not exuberant or expressive, but very silent."],
["00:20:25,355","30634","00:20:26,983","30675","Now we are in Rotterdam"],
["00:20:26,984","30675","00:20:31,694","30792","this is our only building, which we designed in Rotterdam"],
["00:20:31,695","30792","00:20:38,302","30958","and it is on more or less an industrial zone, where only service buildings are built"],
["00:20:38,303","30958","00:20:43,218","31080","in this building they store central heating elements"],
["00:20:43,219","31080","00:20:46,438","31161","and it is a strange story which I have to tell"],
["00:20:46,439","31161","00:20:51,547","31289","because the client already produced a design for this building"],
["00:20:51,548","31289","00:20:53,360","31334","but the esthetic police,"],
["00:20:53,361","31334","00:20:56,695","31417","who judge whether this building is good or not good"],
["00:20:56,696","31417","00:21:00,790","31520","whether it fits in the environment or doesn't fit in the environment"],
["00:21:00,791","31520","00:21:09,954","31749","didn't want the old design of our client<br />so he asked us to save him,"],
["00:21:09,955","31749","00:21:14,806","31870","because he needed the building permit of course<br />and he wanted it very fast"],
["00:21:14,807","31870","00:21:18,357","31959","so he asked us to do the job."],
["00:21:18,358","31959","00:21:23,706","32093","We made it in one week, we produced the design<br />and went to the esthetic police"],
["00:21:23,707","32093","00:21:26,776","32169","and they were very glad it was a nice building"],
["00:21:26,777","32169","00:21:33,699","32342","so we were allowed to go on further and make the working drawings."],
["00:21:33,700","32342","00:21:36,282","32407","What is so special about this building"],
["00:21:36,283","32407","00:21:42,814","32570","is that it is situated in a zone where each building likes to be very special"],
["00:21:45,423","32636","00:21:48,691","32717","with very shouting colours and tilting facades"],
["00:21:48,692","32717","00:21:54,849","32871","and they all like to be very special<br />but because each building is very special,"],
["00:21:54,850","32871","00:21:57,877","32947","it is like some kind of noise"],
["00:21:57,878","32947","00:22:01,473","33037","and our intention was not to be very,"],
["00:22:01,474","33037","00:22:10,531","33263","to make shouting building which expresses itself in a very cheap way"],
["00:22:10,532","33263","00:22:16,679","33417","because I think the elements which they use here<br />make the buildings quite cheap"],
["00:22:16,714","33418","00:22:22,996","33575","and as a contrast we wanted to make a building which was very silent<br />in the way."],
["00:22:22,997","33575","00:22:27,656","33691","we used materials in this case<br />we only used two materials,"],
["00:22:27,657","33691","00:22:32,196","33805","black metal and green fibre"],
["00:22:33,233","33831","00:22:37,807","33945","and the green fibre were already produced<br />as a kind of overhead doors"],
["00:22:37,808","33945","00:22:43,115","34078","and for the first time we used already green fibre glass panels<br />also to make the facades"],
["00:22:43,150","34079","00:22:49,698","34242","so you only have two materials<br />and also the way we treated the box"],
["00:22:49,699","34242","00:22:55,079","34377","because the principle is just a black box<br />which we cutted out in some crucial places"],
["00:22:55,080","34377","00:23:00,701","34518","where fire exits are and also where the overhead doors are,"],
["00:23:00,702","34518","00:23:06,327","34658","so it is very clear and very simple way to make architecture"],
["00:23:06,328","34658","00:23:12,406","34810","and again it is a very contextual building<br />like I think each project is very contextual"],
["00:23:12,407","34810","00:23:19,928","34998","but not in a way like repeating what is existing"],
["00:23:19,929","34998","00:23:24,517","35113","but really making a reaction what is around it,"],
["00:23:25,418","35135","00:23:29,082","35227","not just simply copying it but really making a statement"],
["00:23:29,083","35227","00:23:33,191","35330","and in this case the statement was to shut your mouth."],
["00:23:36,617","35415","00:23:40,058","35501","That's the central idea of this building."],
["00:23:40,059","35501","00:23:42,630","35566","Why Big Mothafucka?"],
["00:23:42,631","35566","00:23:49,132","35728","Black Mothafucka?  Because I was reading at that time<br />a book about Shakur"],
["00:23:49,133","35728","00:23:54,732","35868","this gangster from Los Angeles."],
["00:23:54,733","35868","00:23:58,658","35966","He wrote a very beautiful book about how he killed people"],
["00:23:58,659","35966","00:24:00,764","36019","and what kind of shot-guns he had,"],
["00:24:00,765","36019","00:24:04,009","36100","what kind of girls he had and staff like that"],
["00:24:04,044","36101","00:24:14,187","36355","and he was always shouting like a black mothafucka!<br />and that was the inspiration for this one."],
["00:24:16,828","36421","00:24:18,879","36472","We are here in Hengelo"],
["00:24:18,880","36472","00:24:24,268","36607","and we are visiting first waste incinerator plant,"],
["00:24:24,269","36607","00:24:32,850","36821","that is factory which burns garbage and makes it into clean air,<br />produce the clean air at least."],
["00:24:32,885","36822","00:24:41,233","37031","The air outside of the chimney is clearer than outside.<br />It's cleaner than the air outside."],
["00:24:41,268","37032","00:24:48,902","37223","The second project is the extension of the office<br />of 1 000 square metres."],
["00:24:48,903","37223","00:25:00,758","37519","The design process started in 1993 of the factory<br />and we finished the building in 1997, it was completed at that time"],
["00:25:00,759","37519","00:25:08,798","37720","and the design process of the extension of the office<br />started in 2000 and it's realized in 2003."],
["00:25:08,799","37720","00:25:18,487","37962","The idea, the main idea, main metaphor of this  factory<br />was the scarab"],
["00:25:18,488","37962","00:25:28,018","38200","that is an insect which lives also in garbage<br />and eats the garbage and lives on it."],
["00:25:28,019","38200","00:25:33,575","38339","It's like the factory also,<br />it eats the garbage and produces clean air"],
["00:25:33,576","38339","00:25:39,064","38477","so if you consider the scarab it is talked about the dung beetle,"],
["00:25:39,065","38477","00:25:40,254","38506","it's the same word in English,"],
["00:25:40,255","38506","00:25:47,441","38686","and I was thinking about a building which is<br />a little bit hovering above the ground level,"],
["00:25:47,442","38686","00:25:51,286","38782","you can see that here with hovering"],
["00:25:51,287","38782","00:26:02,137","39053","I mean the materials were as dark as the pavement<br />and above it that insect is standing on the pavement."],
["00:26:02,138","39053","00:26:08,243","39206","The factory consists of 2 burning lines<br />and the third line is now under construction"],
["00:26:09,822","39246","00:26:12,953","39324","because of the success, of course, of the factory"],
["00:26:12,954","39324","00:26:21,533","39538","and only 1/3 of the factory, which is that part deals<br />with the burning of the garbage"],
["00:26:21,534","39538","00:26:29,081","39727","and 2/3 of the factory is only cleaning of all the material<br />which is left over after the burning process."],
["00:26:32,289","39807","00:26:37,493","39937","It is incredible, this is a very big factory<br />but only 8 people are working here."],
["00:26:37,494","39937","00:26:43,114","40078","This is the part where they cool down the heat<br />and so they can produce energy out of it."],
["00:26:45,406","40135","00:26:53,617","40340","They can give a big city like Hengelo energy out of it."],
["00:26:54,423","40361","00:27:00,340","40508","This is one of the cranes, which picks up the garbage<br />and put it in the burning machines."],
["00:27:00,341","40509","00:27:08,581","40715","This is the spot where the trucks are driving in<br />on the main level of the factory, it's the 7,2 level."],
["00:27:08,616","40715","00:27:10,211","40755","And there they dump the garbage"],
["00:27:10,212","40755","00:27:15,294","40882","and then the cranes pick the garbage up<br />and put them in the burning machines."],
["00:27:18,592","40965","00:27:26,384","41160","All the staff which remains like that dark matter,<br />is reused for roads constructions and stuff like that."],
["00:27:26,385","41160","00:27:29,337","41233","So everything can be used again."],
["00:27:34,069","41352","00:27:37,288","41432","In 2003 we finished the extension of the office,"],
["00:27:37,289","41432","00:27:49,820","41746","it's 1 000 m2 and it was necessary because there was much more people,<br />who are doing the administration so they needed more offices here."],
["00:27:49,821","41746","00:27:57,625","41941","But it was not only good to have this opportunity<br />to make an extra building"],
["00:27:57,626","41941","00:28:04,086","42102","but it was also an opportunity to combine the hallway<br />with the factory"],
["00:28:04,087","42102","00:28:11,514","42288","so it was more easy to communicate with the people<br />working in the factory"],
["00:28:11,515","42288","00:28:15,726","42393","otherwise they had to walk outside<br />and take the stairs there at that point."],
["00:28:15,727","42393","00:28:19,808","42495","Of course when you make an extension"],
["00:28:19,809","42495","00:28:27,447","42686","you have to think about what are you going to work<br />in a same way with the same kind of architectural language"],
["00:28:27,448","42686","00:28:29,189","42730","like here in the factory"],
["00:28:29,190","42730","00:28:31,722","42793","but I thought it was another period"],
["00:28:31,723","42793","00:28:41,580","43040","so it is good to have new kind of idea about<br />how you could make an extension"],
["00:28:41,581","43040","00:28:46,730","43168","and it's that of this very expressive kind of building"],
["00:28:46,731","43168","00:28:55,121","43378","I thought it's maybe better to take a line as an idea<br />and to wrap it round the factory."],
["00:28:55,122","43378","00:29:00,517","43513","We start on top of existing office, you can see it,<br />the second level,"],
["00:29:00,518","43513","00:29:08,539","43713","and then it goes down on the first level and it goes up again<br />and penetrates here the main hall, which you can visit in a while."],
["00:29:10,359","43759","00:29:12,338","43808","To give you the idea what the dimensions are:"],
["00:29:12,339","43808","00:29:20,086","44002","the chimney there is 80 metres high, the building is 200 metres<br />and the highest point is 40 or 45 metres."],
["00:29:21,067","44027","00:29:22,942","44074","O.K., let's go upstairs."],
["00:29:26,224","44156","00:29:36,130","44403","Now we are going to the main hall,<br />which is also situated on the 7,2 level"],
["00:29:36,131","44403","00:29:41,583","44540","which is the main level where all machines are situated."],
["00:29:42,745","44569","00:29:48,380","44710","It is completely red as a view land into a fire"],
["00:29:55,708","44893","00:30:06,157","45154","and already here in the hall you can have a look at the installation<br />and also have a look at the main control room."],
["00:30:18,181","45455","00:30:23,646","45591","This is where all the filters are located."],
["00:30:28,224","45706","00:30:30,792","45770","They are water filters and electric filters."],
["00:30:33,807","45845","00:30:36,265","45907","Look at this, this is very nice."],
["00:30:37,223","45931","00:30:42,699","46067","It is not necessary to make windows in a factory<br />because you have a lot of artificial light"],
["00:30:42,700","46068","00:30:51,398","46285","I thought it was quite nice to have windows on the 7,2 level<br />so the machines look very dramatic."],
["00:30:51,399","46285","00:30:54,968","46374","It's also quite nice to have natural light on the floor."],
["00:30:56,008","46400","00:31:00,002","46500","Every part of the plant has its own colour more or less."],
["00:31:30,262","47257","00:31:36,455","47411","So this is the crane cabin, you are now on 21,6 metres,"],
["00:31:37,587","47440","00:31:41,503","47538","you see here the bunker where the trucks dump the garbage."],
["00:31:49,853","47746","00:32:03,998","48100","They used to work with two people here but now they are so sophisticated<br />they can do with one man, but there are still 2 cranes."],
["00:32:07,250","48181","00:32:09,865","48247","Here you can see where the trucks are coming,"],
["00:32:09,866","48247","00:32:17,669","48442","enter the building and it is 9 metres high a little bit higher<br />than the main point 7,2 metres"],
["00:32:17,670","48442","00:32:21,983","48550","and you can see trucks there dumping the garbage in the halls."],
["00:32:22,829","48571","00:32:25,771","48644","Of course they have to pay to dump the waste"],
["00:32:25,772","48644","00:32:31,202","48780","and this is the inspection bend,<br />sometimes they have the inspection,"],
["00:32:31,203","48780","00:32:39,070","48977","not all the trucks, of course, that would be too much work<br />but sometimes they check whether there are forbidden goods dumped."],
["00:32:39,071","48977","00:32:44,871","49122","And this is the inspection cabin also the control of the space"],
["00:32:44,872","49122","00:32:49,564","49239","and behind this is the waste bunker."],
["00:32:53,923","49348","00:33:01,619","49540","This is the turbine room where they produce the energy<br />and they can feed the whole city."],
["00:33:13,014","49825","00:33:18,414","49960","This is the end of the installation, it's the denox machine,"],
["00:33:20,011","50000","00:33:23,602","50090","then it goes through the building to the chimney"],
["00:33:23,603","50090","00:33:30,510","50263","and in the chimney they have all kind of controllers<br />where they control the quality of the air."],
["00:33:30,511","50263","00:33:37,178","50429","So you see the 3/4 of the building is only about filtering and cleaning<br />not only about burning."],
["00:33:37,336","50433","00:33:46,162","50654","The shape of the building was very flexible in the width<br />and in the height"],
["00:33:46,162","50654","00:33:54,521","50863","so at the time when we designed the building it was not sure<br />what kind of machines were brought in"],
["00:33:54,521","50863","00:34:00,805","51020","so in this case the denox ventilations is very low<br />and sometimes it goes very high, very big."],
["00:34:00,806","51020","00:34:03,782","51095","They didn't know what kind of machines they will buy"],
["00:34:03,922","51098","00:34:13,173","51329","and therefore we made a kind of concept where you can shrink<br />and pop up the building without loosing the beauty of the building."],
["00:34:13,329","51333","00:34:17,255","51431","It's like an aesthetic kind of concept<br />or aesthetic strategy you can say."],
["00:34:19,191","51480","00:34:28,355","51709","During the design process the project manager,<br />who controlled the whole building process, construction process,"],
["00:34:28,441","51711","00:34:34,780","51870","he asked me to ask an artist to do something here on the site."],
["00:34:34,781","51870","00:34:37,436","51936","A lot of people did not understand this question"],
["00:34:37,437","51936","00:34:46,407","52160","because they thought that the building was an art object on itself<br />and enough and they don't need an art work again, the second one."],
["00:34:46,408","52160","00:34:53,657","52341","But he was very insisting and to take his question seriously"],
["00:34:53,658","52341","00:35:00,332","52508","I asked my friend Gerald van der Kaap ,<br />who is a well-known artist in Holland to join me in this project."],
["00:35:00,333","52508","00:35:09,464","52737","I had the idea to make a gate and on the gate something<br />which can be filled by Gerald van der Kaap"],
["00:35:09,465","52737","00:35:15,374","52884","and he designed a poetry emission device<br />and all the words and images"],
["00:35:15,375","52884","00:35:21,059","53026","which appear on the screen are triggered<br />by the whole burning process,"],
["00:35:21,060","53026","00:35:27,726","53193","by the heat or the weight of the trucks<br />and by what is typed in the computer"],
["00:35:27,727","53193","00:35:38,746","53469","and we even made a big mouse like the mouse of the computer<br />but for cars when they enter the spot,"],
["00:35:38,747","53469","00:35:40,909","53523","it's a little hill surrounded by red lights,"],
["00:35:40,910","53523","00:35:46,467","53662","you can trigger also the screen and then there appear other stuff."],
["00:35:48,653","53716","00:35:56,538","53913","Besides the idea of the dung beetle<br />which was the main inspiration for this project and this building,"],
["00:35:56,539","53913","00:36:02,595","54065","we also had a second idea it was more about installation<br />and the landscape."],
["00:36:02,596","54065","00:36:12,454","54311","You can see clearly how it is more or less on the same scale<br />of the garbage hills"],
["00:36:12,455","54311","00:36:22,560","54564","and the idea was also that it could be kind of intermedium<br />between the sophisticate installation inside"],
["00:36:22,561","54564","00:36:25,089","54627","and the rough landscape outside."],
["00:36:25,090","54627","00:36:35,428","54886","Because it is all of course an artificial landscape<br />and therefore it has the qualities of both you can say."],
["00:36:35,429","54886","00:36:48,863","55222","But the idea of using metallic look for the facade<br />that was inspired by the dung beetle"],
["00:36:48,864","55222","00:36:58,627","55466","because the animal has also very shiny shield and standing on the legs<br />and the legs are translated into the black concrete."],
["00:36:58,628","55466","00:37:03,510","55588","Also you can see the linearity of the extension of the office."],
["00:37:03,511","55588","00:37:07,146","55679","It's the white part which is in front of the building."],
["00:37:14,246","55856","00:37:25,424","56136","The orange windows which are designed like slits in the windows<br />they are for me more or less like ribs you have also."],
["00:37:26,459","56161","00:37:31,471","56287","It makes it a little bit more the appearance of living creature."],
["00:37:33,770","56344","00:37:37,962","56449","And the buildings which are constructed now,<br />they call it the BEC (Biomass Energy Central)"],
["00:37:37,963","56449","00:37:52,040","56801","and they produce there energy also by wasting vegetables,<br />fruits, all kind of biomass staff."],
["00:37:53,628","56841","00:37:56,304","56908","But that is not design which I did."],
["00:37:57,580","56940","00:38:01,622","57041","It's a very simple and plain industrial building."],
["00:38:02,596","57065","00:38:07,631","57191","When I talked about that it appears like an insect in the landscape"],
["00:38:07,632","57191","00:38:14,826","57371","it's not literal it's more like a mechanical insect<br />and more machinelike insect than the real insect."],
["00:38:14,827","57371","00:38:25,502","57638","If you have an inspiration like a dung beetle<br />it's not for an architect it's not good to translate it too literal"],
["00:38:25,503","57638","00:38:31,331","57783","so you have to have different filters before you make this building."],
["00:38:36,692","57917","00:38:43,101","58078","But obviously there was more budget<br />than a normal industrial building"],
["00:38:43,102","58078","00:38:46,199","58155","because you can see from the red and black building"],
["00:38:46,200","58155","00:38:54,278","58357","this is a design which we also did but very fast<br />and also with very low budget."],
["00:38:54,279","58357","00:38:57,569","58439","- Which one is the David and which one is the Hulk?"],
["00:38:57,570","58439","00:39:01,213","58530","The green one is the Hulk of course and the white one David"],
["00:39:01,214","58530","00:39:04,402","58610","because it is so small and it is fighting against the Hulk"],
["00:39:04,403","58610","00:39:10,709","58768","because it starts on the second floor on top of the old office,"],
["00:39:10,705","58768","00:39:19,737","58993","administration building and then it moves like a snake<br />and enters the building in the main hall."],
["00:39:19,738","58993","00:39:22,566","59064","But because it's so small I call it David."],
["00:39:23,347","59084","00:39:24,943","59124","- Do you like snakes?"],
["00:39:24,944","59124","00:39:34,388","59360","My mother's bitten by a snake and scorpion so I don't like snakes."],
["00:39:34,389","59360","00:39:40,217","59505","But maybe it is out of respect<br />that I used the snake as an image often."],
["00:39:43,104","59578","00:39:46,781","59670","It is more dangerous animal than friendly animal for me."],
["00:39:47,708","59693","00:39:49,001","59725","-  Symbol of evil?"],
["00:39:49,002","59725","00:39:52,045","59801","Yes, but a certain kind of evil"],
["00:39:52,046","59801","00:39:59,954","59999","I mean the difference between good<br />and evil is not always clear."],
["00:39:59,955","59999","00:40:07,669","60192","I think evil is very necessary like in a yin and yang way."],
["00:40:09,174","60229","00:40:10,765","60269","You have to balance."],
["00:40:11,665","60292","00:40:18,968","60474","People who can still believe than they can filter out evil<br />and you have only good and I think it's totally impossible."],
["00:40:18,969","60474","00:40:20,117","60503","And also not good."],
["00:40:23,140","60578","00:40:25,818","60645","We are now standing in Amersfoort"],
["00:40:25,819","60645","00:40:32,109","60803","this is a part of Amersfoort which is also VINEX location."],
["00:40:32,110","60803","00:40:38,070","60952","The village that belongs to Amersfoort is called Hooglanderveen."],
["00:40:38,105","60953","00:40:48,168","61204","And here we see the road, railway and the bicycle track<br />where a tunnel was laid."],
["00:40:48,169","61204","00:40:56,718","61418","And the first question they asked us was another tunnel here<br />in the neighbourhood"],
["00:40:56,753","61419","00:41:00,052","61501","and we called the project The X-Men that was the first commission"],
["00:41:00,053","61501","00:41:03,111","61578","and it belongs to the same road here"],
["00:41:03,112","61578","00:41:06,285","61657","which is a big road around the neighbourhood"],
["00:41:06,286","61657","00:41:17,280","61932","and The X-Men was called by us like that<br />because you work with an x-construction underneath the bridge"],
["00:41:17,281","61932","00:41:24,868","62122","and that scene was put through in all the details also in fences, in lighting"],
["00:41:24,869","62122","00:41:29,351","62234","and that project was first realized"],
["00:41:29,352","62234","00:41:32,883","62322","and after that they asked us to also do this"],
["00:41:32,884","62322","00:41:36,882","62422","and they thought let's copy the x-construction"],
["00:41:36,883","62422","00:41:44,793","62620","and also do it here but that was not possible in some way"],
["00:41:44,794","62620","00:41:53,017","62825","also on the political level it was not possible to copy that bridge<br />where we had worked on"],
["00:41:53,018","62825","00:42:05,411","63135","and I think in a few days I sketched out completely new construction<br />which ended up in this one."],
["00:42:09,462","63237","00:42:15,181","63380","You see they are building a lot here<br />because the trucks are moving around a staff like that."],
["00:42:22,211","63555","00:42:29,316","63733","This will be the new connection to the new center<br />and a part of the neighbourhood here."],
["00:42:38,058","63951","00:42:40,389","64010","You can see also there is completely different"],
["00:42:40,390","64010","00:42:44,088","64102","but there are some elements which appear again like the fence"],
["00:42:44,089","64102","00:42:49,451","64236","which we also used in the tunnel of Pijnacker Touch of Evil"],
["00:42:50,658","64266","00:42:54,888","64372","but instead of red or black and white like Moon Knight<br />this is totally white"],
["00:42:54,889","64372","00:43:00,830","64521","and therefore I thought it was quite good<br />to give this the name I'm No Angel"],
["00:43:07,944","64699","00:43:16,288","64907","because as you know angels most of the times are innocent<br />and white is most of the times also the colour of innocence."],
["00:43:16,289","64907","00:43:18,672","64967","But I don't think this tunnel is innocent."],
["00:43:26,528","65163","00:43:34,883","65372","The very nice part of this one is the glaze mosaic<br />which comes from Italy from near Venice"],
["00:43:34,884","65372","00:43:39,488","65487","and this has the pearl effect in it."],
["00:43:39,489","65487","00:43:45,437","65636","It's rather new product from Bisazza."],
["00:43:56,022","65901","00:44:04,344","66109","Here you can see the new station on top of it<br />with two railway constructions"],
["00:44:06,264","66157","00:44:08,829","66221","and further on you have the bicycle bridge."],
["00:44:16,322","66408","00:44:24,940","66624","So I think what is important here as a way<br />to make these kinds of civil works more human,"],
["00:44:24,941","66624","00:44:29,532","66738","I think well you cannot call it more human,"],
["00:44:29,533","66738","00:44:35,024","66876","but at least more pleasant is that you by one touch<br />to make it totally white"],
["00:44:35,025","66876","00:44:37,262","66932","and everything rounded"],
["00:44:37,953","66949","00:44:44,914","67123","to give it total other experience<br />and appearance than normal civil structures."],
["00:44:46,002","67150","00:44:49,158","67229","I'm also curious how it will take during time"],
["00:44:49,159","67229","00:44:57,948","67449","because it's totally white<br />and - they use it as a race track here -"],
["00:44:58,849","67471","00:45:02,341","67559","after how much time it will get grey or darker."],
["00:45:02,342","67559","00:45:05,391","67635","I think it stands quite o.k."],
["00:45:05,963","67649","00:45:11,813","67795","not so much vandalism, no graffiti, it's quite o.k."],
["00:45:12,301","67808","00:45:18,616","67965","Oh yeah, and the lighting you see the lighting<br />it's the same one as in the bus stop in Hoofdorp."],
["00:45:18,617","67965","00:45:20,645","68016","It is the special mushroom lighting"],
["00:45:20,646","68016","00:45:31,000","68275","because in the mushrooms factories<br />the mushrooms have very heavy chemical stuff"],
["00:45:31,001","68275","00:45:38,389","68460","which they put in the air and the lighting should be good for that."],
["00:45:38,390","68460","00:45:45,194","68630","And this one is rather high quality lighting but not expensive"],
["00:45:47,212","68680","00:45:55,003","68875","and I always like it is in a line no lose down lighters"],
["00:45:56,551","68914","00:46:01,914","69048","and this green zone that you see here is reserved"],
["00:46:02,714","69068","00:46:07,541","69189","so first day they made only one track on both sides"],
["00:46:07,542","69189","00:46:16,943","69424","and they reserved two green spaces here when the neighbourhood<br />is finished this will be also used as a traffic lane."],
["00:46:21,976","69549","00:46:27,634","69691","Another special thing about this tunnel<br />is the use of the glass mosaic on the walls."],
["00:46:27,635","69691","00:46:34,133","69853","Not everywhere but underneath the main bridges,"],
["00:46:34,418","69860","00:46:40,621","70016","because I thought it should have something<br />very shiny on the surface"],
["00:46:40,622","70016","00:46:50,721","70268","and there was a new material from Bisazza which is a factory<br />near Venice producing glass mosaic with a pearl effect"],
["00:46:50,722","70268","00:46:53,989","70350","and this is one of them the lightest one of them,"],
["00:46:53,990","70350","00:47:00,297","70507","you see the beautiful purple, light green, yellow colours in it."],
["00:47:00,948","70524","00:47:06,233","70656","I think it is first time they ever use it in such a big quantity."],
["00:47:13,942","70849","00:47:21,801","71045","We are here at my house in Rotterdam<br />and we are looking at the river Maas here"],
["00:47:22,580","71064","00:47:29,252","71231","and in a way I really like this apartment<br />because you always have the idea that you are on holiday,"],
["00:47:29,253","71231","00:47:36,260","71406","even when it's misty or stormy or rainy,<br />it's always beautiful to see the water"],
["00:47:36,261","71407","00:47:43,669","71592","and yeah, I'm quite glad that we bought this apartment here"],
["00:47:43,670","71592","00:47:53,329","71833","and maybe it is nice when you have this feeling of the holiday<br />we can talk about projects what we did outside of Holland."],
["00:47:53,649","71841","00:48:02,049","72051","Recently we designed something for Blackpool,"],
["00:48:02,050","72051","00:48:06,215","72155","there is a city on the Westside of the coast of Great Britain"],
["00:48:06,216","72155","00:48:15,546","72389","and they asked us to produce ideas for the coast,<br />new developed coast."],
["00:48:15,547","72389","00:48:21,168","72529","They had a new beautiful coast<br />where they didn't make a wall into the sea but stairs"],
["00:48:21,169","72529","00:48:30,404","72760","so it's like a very gentle gesture towards the water<br />but they had only the concrete promenade at that time"],
["00:48:30,405","72760","00:48:35,584","72890","without any programme or any ideas to cover it"],
["00:48:35,585","72890","00:48:47,202","73180","and what we proposed, our main proposal,<br />which we call From the Cities of Nine were moving bar-restaurants"],
["00:48:47,203","73180","00:48:59,163","73479","and you should imagine yourself strange kind of wooden sculptures<br />like 7 metres long and 3 - 5, 4 metres wide"],
["00:48:59,164","73479","00:49:06,197","73655","and they were moving but at a very slow pace like 3 km/hour"],
["00:49:06,198","73655","00:49:11,356","73784","so in 1 hour you could drive from one end<br />to the other end of the promenade"],
["00:49:11,357","73784","00:49:19,710","73993","and all these 9 bar-restaurants have different characters,<br />different stuff what they sell there"],
["00:49:19,711","73993","00:49:25,120","74128","you had bar-restaurant with only sell champagne and lobster"],
["00:49:25,121","74128","00:49:29,823","74246","and the other one was only sake and little sushi's"],
["00:49:29,824","74246","00:49:34,002","74350","and they had all their own specificities,"],
["00:49:34,003","74350","00:49:40,338","74508","they could group around the central restaurant<br />which was fixed on the promenade,"],
["00:49:40,339","74508","00:49:48,559","74714","that one was bigger more less for 200 people<br />and it was for kind of fusion food."],
["00:49:48,560","74714","00:50:01,827","75046","What was important for us to suggest such an idea on the promenade<br />was that you cannot animate promenade without good programme"],
["00:50:01,827","75046","00:50:09,461","75237","and in this case we literally animated the promenade<br />by this driving and strolling bar-restaurants"],
["00:50:09,567","75239","00:50:13,541","75339","this was more or less the situation<br />which we  imagined in the wintertime"],
["00:50:13,542","75339","00:50:22,905","75573","but in a summertime we invented the walkers and the drifters<br />and they were like carts with horses in front which sell also food"],
["00:50:22,906","75573","00:50:31,644","75791","there were people walking with carts on their back<br />which they can sell ice<br />cream or coca-cola and stuff like that"],
["00:50:31,645","75791","00:50:37,818","75945","so the whole promenade was crowded with people<br />selling food and selling drinks"],
["00:50:37,981","75950","00:50:41,721","76043","and I think that was a beautiful gesture towards Blackpool"],
["00:50:41,894","76047","00:50:48,374","76209","because Blackpool was not really well-known<br />by large collection of food"],
["00:50:48,374","76209","00:50:58,622","76466","they had only sold fish and chips<br />the famous Great Britain food,"],
["00:50:59,431","76486","00:51:02,714","76568","so in a sense it was very poor what they sold"],
["00:51:02,714","76568","00:51:08,454","76711","and this could enrich there what they are doing<br />there in the town."],
["00:51:08,663","76717","00:51:14,874","76872","But I'm afraid we lost<br />but still it's a very beautiful project"],
["00:51:14,874","76872","00:51:17,580","76940","which maybe can do somewhere else."],
["00:51:17,581","76940","00:51:21,150","77029","Maybe Barcelona is more open for such an idea"],
["00:51:21,151","77029","00:51:26,817","77170","but again we have seen a lot of projects"],
["00:51:26,818","77170","00:51:28,494","77212","which deal with public space"],
["00:51:28,495","77212","00:51:36,563","77414","I think this is also a project<br />which we injected liveliness into something"],
["00:51:36,564","77414","00:51:44,519","77613","which you see as a kind background is very cold"],
["00:51:44,520","77613","00:51:47,949","77699","it's a way to animate the public space."],
["00:51:49,107","77728","00:51:52,202","77805","Another project which we did in Great Britain,"],
["00:51:52,203","77805","00:51:54,605","77865","it was in Liverpool where they invited us"],
["00:51:54,606","77865","00:51:58,575","77964","to make the gate of the town more visible"],
["00:51:58,576","77964","00:51:59,945","77999","or to do something with that."],
["00:51:59,946","77999","00:52:06,795","78170","when you enter Liverpool is more visible"],
["00:52:06,796","78170","00:52:11,062","78277","and we invented the bridge which was crossing"],
["00:52:11,063","78277","00:52:14,492","78362","from one neighbourhood to another one over the freeway"],
["00:52:14,493","78362","00:52:18,252","78456","but it is not only a bridge, a passageway,"],
["00:52:18,253","78456","00:52:22,698","78567","it was also the public space because<br />the bridge get wider above the freeway"],
["00:52:22,699","78567","00:52:28,860","78722","and we developed some programmes for this public space"],
["00:52:28,861","78722","00:52:32,515","78813","e.g. you can have a market there each week"],
["00:52:32,516","78813","00:52:40,088","79002","or you can sell other stuff<br />but instead of making just an artwork, a sculpture"],
["00:52:40,089","79002","00:52:43,987","79100","we made a passageway which connected<br />the two neighbourhoods"],
["00:52:43,988","79100","00:52:46,800","79170","and we also created public space"],
["00:52:46,801","79170","00:52:50,699","79267","but because all these things are on top of each other"],
["00:52:50,700","79268","00:52:54,517","79363","which I like very much, they were hesitating to do it"],
["00:52:54,518","79363","00:53:01,929","79548","because they thought it was quite dangerous,<br />for our English client it was too risky"],
["00:53:01,930","79548","00:53:10,716","79768","They said: o.k. sculpture on itself is o.k. or bridge on itself is o.k.<br />or public space on itself is o.k."],
["00:53:10,717","79768","00:53:13,567","79839","but not the mixture of it."],
["00:53:13,568","79839","00:53:18,660","79966","While in a way that's the most interesting thing to do"],
["00:53:18,661","79967","00:53:21,850","80046","to mix all these elements into one object."],
["00:53:21,851","80046","00:53:27,023","80176","So we didn't win that competition."],
["00:53:27,077","80177","00:53:32,332","80308","So not only architecture should create a new kind of experience"],
["00:53:32,333","80308","00:53:39,766","80494","but also stuff like the titles should create another way<br />to read the project."],
["00:53:39,767","80494","00:53:42,742","80569","And that I think is the most important thing<br />to give them titles."],
["00:53:42,743","80569","00:53:47,640","80691","Sometimes they arise immediately starting the project<br />like From the Cities of Nine"],
["00:53:47,641","80691","00:53:51,918","80798","but sometimes they are coming much later like Touch of Evil."],
["00:53:53,129","80828","00:53:55,560","80889","Maybe I can tell a little bit about myself"],
["00:53:55,561","80889","00:54:02,284","81057","because I'm not the regular architect in Holland<br />and surely not in Europe."],
["00:54:02,285","81057","00:54:05,218","81130","I think that is because of my background,"],
["00:54:05,219","81130","00:54:12,161","81304","first of all I was born in Indonesia<br />and I was six when I came to Holland"],
["00:54:12,162","81304","00:54:17,839","81446","and I think also that kind of culture although you are six<br />you carry with you the all the time"],
["00:54:17,840","81446","00:54:25,811","81645","I mean at least they are the Indonesian genes<br />which also are important on your body"],
["00:54:25,811","81645","00:54:30,694","81767","and I think it's a very important period"],
["00:54:30,695","81767","00:54:40,329","82008","but also the architecture in 1st D in Delft<br />was also a very important period for me"],
["00:54:40,330","82008","00:54:45,099","82127","because there I developed a kind of way of thinking"],
["00:54:45,100","82128","00:54:49,807","82245","which crystallize now in all the projects."],
["00:54:49,808","82245","00:54:54,535","82363","What we did was not working on projects"],
["00:54:54,536","82363","00:54:58,357","82459","but we were reading a lot and translating a lot."],
["00:54:58,358","82459","00:55:04,839","82621","We first started with Manfredo Tafuri with Design and Utopia."],
["00:55:04,840","82621","00:55:08,315","82708","It's a very famous Italian book"],
["00:55:08,316","82708","00:55:13,326","82833","and after that we read Michel Foucault and Gilles Deleuze,"],
["00:55:13,327","82833","00:55:18,710","82968","but the most important thing of all for me was Jean Baudrillard."],
["00:55:18,711","82968","00:55:26,576","83164","I translated his book,<br />the most important book I think which exist now,"],
["00:55:26,577","83164","00:55:31,083","83277","it's the Fatal Strategies - Les Stratégies Fatales"],
["00:55:31,084","83277","00:55:34,320","83358","and this is a new edition which is quite nice"],
["00:55:34,321","83358","00:55:40,912","83523","because I am not only producing architecture<br />but I do also graphic design."],
["00:55:40,913","83523","00:55:46,181","83655","The publisher asked me to reshape the book"],
["00:55:46,182","83655","00:55:49,987","83750","because all the books were sold out."],
["00:55:49,988","83750","00:55:54,663","83867","It was nice to make a new graphic design for the book."],
["00:55:54,664","83867","00:56:02,856","84071","What I did was to make the cover story in Braille<br />so you can feel it,"],
["00:56:02,857","84071","00:56:07,380","84184","you can read it with the Braille only here on the backside,<br />the title is clear."],
["00:56:07,381","84185","00:56:14,159","84354","I did it because this book is about all the blind processes<br />which we cannot control in this world"],
["00:56:14,160","84354","00:56:21,043","84526","and he explains why all these blind and black processes,"],
["00:56:21,044","84526","00:56:26,999","84675","processes which take parts in the shadow<br />but still are very important"],
["00:56:27,000","84675","00:56:30,236","84756","why they are  of value."],
["00:56:30,237","84756","00:56:32,230","84806","It opened my eyes,"],
["00:56:32,231","84806","00:56:36,493","84912","we talked about it near the waste incinerator,<br />about good and evil."],
["00:56:36,494","84912","00:56:46,634","85166","This book is about that how you should not try<br />to filter all evil out of the world"],
["00:56:46,635","85166","00:56:51,696","85292","and hope that you have a happier world or something like that."],
["00:56:51,697","85292","00:56:58,037","85451","That period at the university we were reading all these kinds of books"],
["00:56:58,038","85451","00:57:05,801","85645","and it developed  my thinking<br />and also my way how I approach architecture."],
["00:57:06,964","85674","00:57:13,797","85845","In the first years of architecture<br />there was big hype with video productions."],
["00:57:13,798","85845","00:57:26,352","86159","one of my most favourite video makers,<br />video directors you can say is Bill Viola"],
["00:57:26,353","86159","00:57:31,628","86291","and he produces really lot of remarkable video productions."],
["00:57:31,629","86291","00:57:43,903","86598","On the level of theatre I really like Bob Wilson,<br />the theatre maker and this American guy,"],
["00:57:43,904","86598","00:57:55,052","86876","and of course, we saw a lot of movies like the movies<br />of Wim Wenders or Tarkovski<br />and Lars von Trier and Antonioni in Italy"],
["00:57:55,053","86876","00:58:01,305","87033","and I think also that part is very important for me."],
["00:58:01,306","87033","00:58:05,822","87146","We had this amazing studio at school, at the university<br />where you could produce video"],
["00:58:05,823","87146","00:58:11,545","87289","so also after that I produced 6 or 7 video productions"],
["00:58:11,637","87291","00:58:17,208","87430","and also graphic design of books."],
["00:58:18,230","87456","00:58:26,277","87657","I first started ranging off in a very big company consisting of 200 people"],
["00:58:26,278","87657","00:58:30,339","87758","and I was one of the only architects who worked there."],
["00:58:30,340","87758","00:58:35,128","87878","It was BDG Architects and Engineers"],
["00:58:35,129","87878","00:58:39,812","87995","and they have several places where they have their offices."],
["00:58:39,813","87995","00:58:48,873","88222","I started there because I didn't want to work in an office<br />which is very famous"],
["00:58:48,874","88222","00:58:51,261","88282","because then you would be certainly the slave"],
["00:58:51,262","88282","00:58:56,474","88412","and only making certain kind of part of the buildings."],
["00:58:56,475","88412","00:59:03,024","88576","So I tried in this very big company<br />where there were only engineers no architects no designers"],
["00:59:03,025","88576","00:59:07,378","88684","and I thought first I am going to be assistant architect"],
["00:59:07,379","88684","00:59:16,105","88903","but on the first day I got the commission<br />to design a building immediately"],
["00:59:16,106","88903","00:59:17,775","88944","and it had to be finished in two weeks"],
["00:59:17,776","88944","00:59:26,549","89164","so I was really jumping in a running train<br />and it was always the same."],
["00:59:26,550","89164","00:59:32,834","89321","We produced like 20-25 buildings each year at least designs,"],
["00:59:32,835","89321","00:59:35,198","89380","they were not all realized of course,"],
["00:59:35,199","89380","00:59:44,843","89621","but there is the place to really understand and learn<br />what the practical side of architecture is."],
["00:59:44,844","89621","00:59:48,207","89705","I mean the theoretical side I learned at school"],
["00:59:48,208","89705","00:59:54,618","89865","but the practical and very rough and hard side of architecture<br />I learnt at that office."],
["00:59:54,619","89865","01:00:05,852","90146","We started our own office at 2000 with 3 people<br />and now we are still alive"],
["01:00:05,853","90146","01:00:10,384","90260","and kicking now into 2007 and doing a lot of projects."],
["01:00:10,385","90260","01:00:16,434","90411","I think what is important apart from having a strong idea,"],
["01:00:16,435","90411","01:00:27,109","90678","a strong code for each building is to develop with each project<br />a special kind of technique"],
["01:00:27,110","90678","01:00:28,890","90722","which we invent."],
["01:00:28,891","90722","01:00:36,453","90911","What I always like is to talk with subcontractors<br />about what they have in house"],
["01:00:36,454","90911","01:00:40,429","91011","or what they can do with the machines."],
["01:00:40,430","91011","01:00:51,046","91276","With each project we like to invent something<br />a kind of detail or technique or a special kind of colours."],
["01:00:51,047","91276","01:01:00,560","91514","When I can mention an example with the tunnel in Pijnacker"],
["01:01:00,561","91514","01:01:10,875","91772","we had big problems with having a very shiny paint on concrete<br />because concrete needs to breath"],
["01:01:10,876","91772","01:01:15,719","91893","so you only have a certain kind of paint<br />which can be put on concrete"],
["01:01:15,720","91893","01:01:22,125","92053","that is called Keim paint, it's always very dull, very bleak"],
["01:01:22,126","92053","01:01:29,123","92228","It's not strong, it's a little bit boring paint"],
["01:01:29,124","92228","01:01:31,394","92285","but it is the only paint which can hold on concrete"],
["01:01:31,395","92285","01:01:36,158","92404","and that's something which we didn't want."],
["01:01:36,159","92404","01:01:44,160","92604","We talked with several subcontractors<br />and the third one, he had a very nice technique"],
["01:01:44,161","92604","01:01:48,964","92724","at least he tried to invent something<br />which was a paint which could breath"],
["01:01:48,965","92724","01:02:00,212","93005","but in a final layer on top of the red paint<br />we decided to put a glitter in the transparent coating."],
["01:02:00,213","93005","01:02:05,210","93130","This glitter was normally used for girls on their eyebrows"],
["01:02:05,211","93130","01:02:08,864","93222","so they have this shiny eyebrows when they go out to parties"],
["01:02:08,865","93222","01:02:12,419","93310","but instead of putting them on eyebrows we put it in the paint"],
["01:02:12,420","93310","01:02:17,854","93446","and therefore it got the paint got a certain kind of deepness"],
["01:02:17,855","93446","01:02:20,739","93518","but also a certain kind of ambiguity"],
["01:02:20,740","93518","01:02:23,072","93577","because you cannot see really what it is,"],
["01:02:23,073","93577","01:02:28,501","93713","whether it is orange or red and that's also what I like"],
["01:02:28,502","93713","01:02:32,325","93808","not only as a paint but also as a kind of invention."],
["01:02:32,326","93808","01:02:39,865","93997","We try every time with each project<br />to put something fresh and new in the project."],
["01:02:41,014","94025","01:02:48,956","94224","At this moment 22 bridges in s-Hertogenbosch are going to be realized."],
["01:02:48,957","94224","01:02:56,568","94414","It's very interesting project because we were asked<br />to create a family of bridges."],
["01:02:56,569","94414","01:03:01,262","94532","I have already talked about the bridge in Liverpool"],
["01:03:01,263","94532","01:03:12,737","94818","where we regard the bridge not only as a traffic zone<br />or passageway but also as a kind of public space."],
["01:03:12,738","94818","01:03:18,722","94968","In this case we regarded the bridge also as a place"],
["01:03:18,723","94968","01:03:23,142","95079","where people can stay a little bit longer than normally."],
["01:03:23,143","95079","01:03:28,720","95218","There are not really big bridges, they are like"],
["01:03:28,721","95218","01:03:34,399","95360","the biggest one is 12 metres in length and like 10 metres in width."],
["01:03:34,400","95360","01:03:41,442","95536","Most of them are smaller but still you can have the idea"],
["01:03:41,443","95536","01:03:48,279","95707","that it is not only a bridge in a sense that there is a traffic zone<br />but you can stay a little bit longer"],
["01:03:48,280","95707","01:03:54,323","95858","that there is a created moment before you enter the domain."],
["01:03:54,324","95858","01:04:04,200","96105","The 22 bridges are needed<br />because the urban plan was made out of islands"],
["01:04:04,201","96105","01:04:08,525","96213","so all the houses were developed on islands."],
["01:04:08,526","96213","01:04:12,249","96306","These islands contain like 10-12 houses,"],
["01:04:12,250","96306","01:04:18,149","96454","therefore we needed so much bridges to come to your house."],
["01:04:18,150","96454","01:04:28,464","96712","The main idea was to see it again very contextual<br />but you cannot say what is the context in bridges"],
["01:04:28,465","96712","01:04:35,051","96876","- the houses which are very colourful very Swedish made out<br />of wood and stuff like that"],
["01:04:35,052","96876","01:04:41,454","97036","or do you see the context more as the water itself."],
["01:04:41,455","97036","01:04:45,115","97128","The last one was our decision,"],
["01:04:45,116","97128","01:04:57,262","97432","we decided to be inspired by water drop<br />which hangs on an object or leaf or something else."],
["01:04:57,263","97432","01:05:07,490","97687","This idea inspired us to make the bridge like a kind of drop"],
["01:05:07,491","97687","01:05:13,423","97836","so it's really three dimensional made out of concrete and steel."],
["01:05:13,424","97836","01:05:19,307","97983","The bridge itself is made of concrete<br />and the fences are made of steel."],
["01:05:19,308","97983","01:05:27,354","98184","It is very sensual,<br />shapes which more or less grows towards the middle"],
["01:05:27,355","98184","01:05:32,916","98323","and ends again smaller at the end"],
["01:05:32,917","98323","01:05:40,432","98511","and contains kind of space on the bridge."],
["01:05:40,433","98511","01:05:47,730","98693","So that is one of the projects we were working very hard lately."],
["01:05:48,858","98721","01:06:00,225","99006","One of the most important element<br />of the A4 design is a tunnel which is 1,5 kilometres."],
["01:06:00,226","99006","01:06:03,879","99097","It is very very long and it has some curves in it."],
["01:06:03,880","99097","01:06:06,125","99153","What we thought is well,"],
["01:06:06,126","99153","01:06:18,702","99468","let's make all the tunnels on this route very heavy,<br />very massive, very dark, very wet"],
["01:06:18,703","99468","01:06:22,174","99554","and everything which is on top of it, all this civil works"],
["01:06:22,175","99554","01:06:25,450","99636","which goes over it, quite light and bright and white."],
["01:06:25,451","99636","01:06:32,319","99808","And this main important item of this A4<br />which is 1,5 kilometres long"],
["01:06:32,320","99808","01:06:40,358","100009","we decided to first make it light and then dark<br />and where the corners are also bright"],
["01:06:40,359","100009","01:06:45,098","100127","so you have the idea you always drive towards the light."],
["01:06:45,099","100127","01:06:52,200","100305","In this light spots we designed strange kind of water creatures"],
["01:06:52,201","100305","01:07:01,874","100547","which are not really visible but you can sense them<br />in a way it's not really too recognizable or too readable."],
["01:07:01,875","100547","01:07:05,873","100647","But it's more like a subliminal experience."],
["01:07:05,874","100647","01:07:10,668","100767","And afterwards you drive out of the tunnel,<br />it goes white again."],
["01:07:13,379","100834","01:07:15,765","100894","Shall we talk about Heaven and Hell?"],
["01:07:15,766","100894","01:07:23,402","101085","If we talk about public domain<br />I think that's quite important project."],
["01:07:23,403","101085","01:07:37,426","101436","The site used to be a parking space<br />and this parking space is located underneath a railway and a freeway."],
["01:07:37,427","101436","01:07:40,463","101512","So this is a big bundle of traffic zone"],
["01:07:40,464","101512","01:07:52,590","101815","and underneath our client, the developer decided to make<br />shop of 1500 m2 in combination with a restaurant,"],
["01:07:52,591","101815","01:07:57,580","101940","because he thought that the relation between the restaurant<br />and the shop could be very nice"],
["01:07:57,581","101940","01:08:04,890","102122","when you shop you would like to take coffee<br />or you would have lunch you look at the shop."],
["01:08:04,891","102122","01:08:09,645","102241","And maybe there is some synergy in between those two functions."],
["01:08:09,646","102241","01:08:13,057","102326","That was a quite nice concept already"],
["01:08:13,058","102326","01:08:18,958","102474","but what was very interesting was that he decided<br />to put it underneath this bundle of traffic zones"],
["01:08:18,959","102474","01:08:29,954","102749","and because it was very important to connect the existing shopping street,<br />which was very old typical Dutch street,"],
["01:08:29,955","102749","01:08:32,503","102813","and like an office zone."],
["01:08:32,504","102813","01:08:37,149","102929","This combination was quite interesting,"],
["01:08:37,150","102929","01:08:51,696","103292","you can imagine yourself that this space underneath this bundle<br />of traffic zones is very grey, very civil, very bold"],
["01:08:51,697","103292","01:08:59,443","103486","and therefore we thought it was quite important<br />to make something very colourful underneath it,"],
["01:08:59,444","103486","01:09:08,839","103721","an object which you cannot analyse in orthogonal structures."],
["01:09:08,840","103721","01:09:11,614","103790","So everything was rounded also in detailing"],
["01:09:11,615","103790","01:09:18,770","103969","that we rounded of where the building touches the roof<br />or touches the ground."],
["01:09:18,771","103969","01:09:30,007","104250","The geometry was quite interesting<br />we had like a planetarium of lines all kind of circles made first."],
["01:09:30,008","104250","01:09:32,978","104324","And all the circles defined parts of the building,"],
["01:09:32,979","104324","01:09:41,103","104528","some circles defined the glass, some circles the furniture,<br />some circles were inner walls."],
["01:09:41,104","104528","01:09:51,475","104787","So this is geometry which was swirling all around<br />underneath this bundle of traffic zones"],
["01:09:51,476","104787","01:09:53,287","104832","which is quite a nice project."],
["01:09:54,632","104866","01:10:02,369","105059","Another project which is realized but already a long time ago"],
["01:10:02,370","105059","01:10:07,742","105194","are the 12 houses in Hilversum and that's the project<br />which we call The Cyclops."],
["01:10:07,743","105194","01:10:12,965","105324","It's quite strange project because it's situated against sound barrier."],
["01:10:12,966","105324","01:10:16,151","105404","You have there provincial road which is very busy."],
["01:10:16,152","105404","01:10:22,381","105560","The city decided to develop the spot near this roadway"],
["01:10:22,382","105560","01:10:29,050","105726","and because our law insisted on having there sound barrier"],
["01:10:29,051","105726","01:10:34,749","105869","they asked us to make sound barrier to protect the location,"],
["01:10:34,750","105869","01:10:44,415","106110","but also to be able to raise funding for the sound barrier<br />to develop houses at the back of the sound barrier"],
["01:10:44,416","106110","01:10:51,891","106297","so the city could sell the land<br />and also make and build the sound barrier."],
["01:10:51,892","106297","01:11:00,503","106513","What we did was quite extraordinary<br />because when you have at back sound barrier"],
["01:11:00,504","106513","01:11:04,419","106610","you cannot have a garden, which is typical in Holland:"],
["01:11:04,420","106610","01:11:06,968","106674","you have a house and at back there is a garden."],
["01:11:06,969","106674","01:11:15,276","106882","But you don't have a garden in this case so what we did is<br />we raised the living room on the first floor"],
["01:11:15,277","106882","01:11:18,848","106971","and put all the sleeping rooms downstairs also the garage"],
["01:11:18,849","106971","01:11:24,717","107118","and you can say that the garden is now in front of you."],
["01:11:24,718","107118","01:11:30,712","107268","But it's not the private garden but the public garden<br />it's like a zone which is developed as a park."],
["01:11:30,713","107268","01:11:41,482","107537","And what we also did was that we removed the road<br />in front of the houses and moved it further away."],
["01:11:41,483","107537","01:11:45,989","107650","Each house has an own road towards its garage,<br />towards its own house."],
["01:11:45,990","107650","01:11:52,442","107811","That's I think what is very nice about this project<br />that you can see 12 houses in a row,"],
["01:11:52,443","107811","01:11:59,662","107992","but each house is designed as a unique object."],
["01:11:59,663","107992","01:12:07,240","108181","Unique object but still it is a part of 12 houses."],
["01:12:07,241","108181","01:12:17,822","108446","We interviewed the people who bought this house<br />and what we were told was"],
["01:12:17,823","108446","01:12:25,706","108643","that they bought these houses because they thought<br />it is unique chance to make a step in their own life"],
["01:12:25,707","108643","01:12:28,191","108705","to change their life in a certain way."],
["01:12:28,192","108705","01:12:33,434","108836","Most of them bought all new stuff in their house."],
["01:12:33,435","108836","01:12:41,534","109038","I think a house nowadays is not only about having a roof<br />above your head"],
["01:12:41,535","109038","01:12:46,709","109168","but also having something precious like a fetish."],
["01:12:46,710","109168","01:12:52,790","109320","One guy, who worked in a garage,<br />also bought this house, one of the Cyclops."],
["01:12:52,791","109320","01:12:58,354","109459","We visited this garage and he had this beautiful Porsche,"],
["01:12:58,355","109459","01:13:07,916","109698","very dusty old Porsche in his house<br />and I asked why do you have this Porsche - very old car"],
["01:13:07,917","109698","01:13:18,704","109968","and he said, well this is an object which you need<br />which needs to care, which you want like your house."],
["01:13:18,705","109968","01:13:26,645","110166","And suddenly I realized<br />that houses are not just simply functional things"],
["01:13:26,646","110166","01:13:35,456","110386","but also kind of mental objects which you really buy<br />because you appreciate it,"],
["01:13:35,457","110386","01:13:36,694","110417","because you care about it"],
["01:13:36,695","110417","01:13:48,992","110725","and afterwards we thought a lot about this,<br />that affinity towards objects is quite important"],
["01:13:48,993","110725","01:13:57,618","110940","and especially when you build not only houses<br />but things in public domains."],
["01:13:57,619","110940","01:14:08,609","111215","It's quite important that you make things<br />where people can have a kind of specific feelings about"],
["01:14:08,610","111215","01:14:16,533","111413","and therefore you need special kind of energy put in the design."],
["01:14:16,534","111413","01:14:21,762","111544","I think that's the case also with the bridges in Den Bosch"],
["01:14:21,763","111544","01:14:31,779","111794","or with the bus station in Hoofddorp or tunnels<br />which you visited in Pijnacker and Amersfoort."],
["01:14:31,780","111794","01:14:46,799","112170","They have all a kind of intention which was put in the designs<br />so that people can have a certain kind of affinity to it"],
["01:14:46,800","112170","01:14:56,538","112413","and with that also<br />you can always have a certain kind of specific relationship towards the object."],
["01:14:56,539","112413","01:15:02,612","112565","you can tell every time not a different story about it,<br />at least people can every time tell diferent story about it."],
["01:15:02,613","112565","01:15:08,601","112715","I think this is the most important thing if you work in public domain."]
];